Mar 01

Hi

At the end of this fine February, on the 29th !!!!!, Yuka has finally become a permanent resident of the Hungarian Republic. But how exactly did we get here? Well, that was no easy task even for a Japanese, Hungary did give her as much pain and sorrow that not many would have bared. Read on for details and to see what the Permanent Residency card looks like.

Looking at these images is easy, but getting them, oh boy…

We got married in Japan, and went to the Hungarian embassy of Tokyo. Things went really smootly, the ambassador was a real gentleman, and we got our papers needed for the Hungarian acceptance of the marriage in a matter of a few weeks including post, etc. The temporary VISA of 6 months was in our hands, and we were looking forward to our life in Hungary. We had no idea what awaits us on the Hungarian end at that point…

Once we arrived to Hungary, we had a few months to settle things, so we got started. We needed first to get Married in Hungary, I mean to get our Japanese marriage accepted. For this, we needed the Japanese marriage papers, which were already translated by the Hungarian consulate in Tokyo, at least we thought it was. We went to get married to the 12th Disctrict Municipal office of Budapest where we belong. There we were quickly rejected, as the translation was not valid, and they even said who are we kidding with such papers. Okay, well it was only stamped by the Hungarian embassy of Japan, but whatever, we were off to OFFI, the Hungarian National Translation Agency, which is the only place we can get it translated so that it will be accepted. Guess what they did? They translated the docs with the help of the Hungarian consulate in Tokyo, who actually already translated it once.

Well, this is only the beginning. It cost us a small fortune, and took a few weeks again. Our 6 months VISA was running out quickly. We finally had the Marriage certificate translated, so we headed back to the Municipal Office, where we were again rejected, as we had no leagal witness with us, who would do the translation between the Municipal officer and my wife. They had the feeling that this Japanese national (Yuka) was so eager to become Hungarian that she paid a Hungarian national (Myself) to go to Japan, marry her, and get her the residency in Hungary. I mean, come on, where are we, US? Is this such a desirable place for Japanese that they will come here like Southern Immigrants make their ways to the US?

Well again, we were off to look for a witness. Of course they could have told us this once we were rejected at the beginning about the Marriage Certificate, but they didn’t. We convinced one of my friends to do the translation for us. I made yet another appointment with the Municipal Officer, and we were on our ways, the 3rd time now. We met the Officer, sat down at a table, and the witness was only there to sign, I did all the translation between my wife and the municipal officer. You smell bureaucracy here? I am sure you don’t :)

After 5 minutes, and some ridiculous questions like “Ms Yuka, Did Mr Frank forcefully bring you to Japan” and “Are you just looking for an easy living in Hungary?” we got the papers.

Once we had the marriage certificate, we were officially married in Hungary finally. We had to decide about Yuka’s post marital name and our future children’s name, and believe it or not, my post marital name. Yes, Hungary is one of those “modern” countries where the Husband can get the wife’s family name should he desire.

So we were off to the Immigation Office. If you have seen a place out of order and in a complete chaos before, multiply it by 2 and then you may be close to how this place looked. Packed mostly with Eastern Europeans and Chinese, we were all waiting for the Immigration Officers to call our number. We finally got to the beginning of the queue in a matter of 3-4 hours and were called to a seat. There, in about 2 minutes the officer has already sent us home for more papers to prepare. Of course this was too difficult to say over the phone when I called. We had to get some assurance from my Mother, that she will take care of us providing room and board, as we are living with her (on paper). My mom had to go to the Hungarian National Land Registry Office to get a copy of her Flat’s registration, proving that she actually own this. Fine. We also had to get a few dozen of shots injected into Yuka’s arm and wherever, to make sure she won’t bring some crazy Japanese 3rd world sicknesses into our safe heaven of Hungary. I mean Japan, you know, is even further to the east from us, it can only be worse, right? Dah….

Once we had all that, we again went back to the Immigration office, and after another 3-4 hours of waiting in the filthy waiting room, we found out that WE forgot to bring medical insurance for her. Yepp, we forgot it, not them. They clearly mentioned it to us on our first visit. Again, whatever. We were off to the Medical Insurance Facility, a government run business.

At this point Yuka was ready to scream, and leave the country, as clearly this country doesn’t want her, at least the situations made her feel so. So, again, in the line at the Social Insurance for a few hours only to find out, that without her Immigration Papers settled, she cannot get the insurance card. The law changed a few months ago, and now this is how its done.

Okay, so the Insurance Company requires her to have the Immigration settled, but the immigration requires her to have insurance. At this time we were so ready to get on live TV, and send all these officers and other government officials to high heaven or wherever.

We went back again to the Immigration, and as it was our 3rd or 4th time already, we feared so much what the outcome will be. Sure enough, Yuka was deported at this point, as we were just not able to match their requirements. And the officer called for the next in line. So this was the point where I said enough. I asked for some manager, and although showing us a bad face, she did call a manager, who finally had some human qualities to himself and understood our situation. Yuka’s deportation ended there, but she was illegal in Hungary for 30 minutes or so. We had to appeal, and they after a month or so, generously accepted our case and gave us the 2 year Permit for Staying.

In this 2 years, we almost forgot the horrors of the story thank god, and recently, when her permit came to an end, we went again to the Immigration, but this time fired up with a private insurance policy set, and they found no way of sending us away. Plus, Yuka is still my wife, so it seems she really didn’t come all the way from Japan to live on Hungarian social funds :) , and she got the 10 year permit.

We both hope never to see that office again, but I guess in 2018, we are going to….

I have a collegaue at work, she has an American Husband, and they went through just like what happened to us, so its seems we weren’t just the unlucky ones.

Make no mistake, if you are coming from a 3rd world country like America, or Japan, you will have a tough time getting through immigration. How is that for an irony…..

183 Responses to “Permanent Residency in Hungary and how we finally got it”

  1. Suresh ji Says:

    u can see what i send u the hungrian buro cracy

  2. bence8810 Says:

    Sorry, don’t really understand what you mean there Suresh ji. Care to elaborate?

  3. geof Says:

    Wow! I’m rather embarrassed to say I received my Hungarian residency (based on my wife’s citizenship) in less than two weeks after applying, with no problems whatsoever. However, trying to get a visa and permesso for Italy is a nightmare rivaling your situation.

  4. bence8810 Says:

    Hi Geof. I am glad you didn’t have to go through all these issues. Where did you have it done? We went to the Budafoki ut. 60 address and that’s where all the “Magic” happened :) . Also, did you have your marriage certificate from a foreign country, or you got married in Hungary? I guess that would make a world of difference.

    Anyways, I am glad yours is sorted without any hassle.

    Cheers

  5. robert medhurst Says:

    It is not clear to me if Yuka also required an Identity card as well as the permanent residency card?
    Robert

  6. bence8810 Says:

    Hi. No she was not required, and we didn’t get it. The only thing she got was the residency card and a so called “Lakcim kartya” which is a card that shows your address in Hungary. The only funny thing is that even after getting the residency card, you need to carry your passport as it is only valid together, which is a joke. Of course we simply disregarded this rule, and she only carried her residency card in her wallet.

    Good luck,

    Cheers

    Ben

  7. robert Says:

    If one wants a a mobile phone one should show an ID?

  8. robert Says:

    When I got permanent residency in Hungary I was issued with a “semelyi igazolvany” for foreigners at the local town hall-which is needed to purchase a phone! I wonder if the Permanent residency card is enough. Why does she need to carry her passport?

  9. bence8810 Says:

    Oh so you got the Szemelyi Igazolvany? That is great, We were told that foreigners don’t get that. Anyways, we are gone from Hungary now, so it doesn’t matter, but later on I will see if I can get Yuka the ID as well.

    The mobile phone she had was purchased by me, thus we never faced this issue.

    Thanks for the updates Robert, much appreciated,

    Cheers

    Ben

  10. kosta Says:

    congratulation for yuka!!!it seems that u went through the difficult patient exam in the whole world:))
    could any one tell me if you will buy an apartment in hungary, will you become a resident or will u take the resident permit????

    regards to all

  11. bence8810 Says:

    Hi Kosta,

    Sorry but I dont know the answer to that question. Its possible, but as there are a lot of silly things with Hungary, I cannot say for sure.

    Cheers,

    Ben

  12. kosta Says:

    thank you ben, don’t you know how can i know something like this????

  13. bence8810 Says:

    Sorry there Kosta, don’t have a clue about this and about how to find it out either. Probably your best shot is to look up a real estate agent, and ask them the question as if you were a foreign investor, etc.

    Cheers

    Ben

  14. robert Says:

    Sorry I found out that under the new law foreigners are only issued with the card not the id which they can use to get a mobile phone, but you need an Hungarian guarantor for the monthly version

  15. bence8810 Says:

    Hi Robert,

    I see, that is somewhat of a discomfort. Yuka had used a prepaid (Praktikum) mobile, so we never faced this issue.

    Thanks for the heads up as always :)
    Have a nice weekend,

    Ben

  16. robert Says:

    Hi Ben
    Last question for you.Can the Permanent Residency card be used for residency in other EC countries?If so .What kind of residency can you get there?

  17. bence8810 Says:

    This is something totally new to me as I have left Hungary before we joined the EU, and I am sure there was no such possibility before that. I would imagine Hungary still has some restrictions that prohibits residents from becoming a full EU citizen, but I could be wrong.

    Sorry that I am not help these days

    Ben

  18. robert Says:

    I applied for the Permanent Residency card on the 4 November.
    When do you think it will be ready?How long did it take for Yuka?

  19. bence8810 Says:

    Hmm, I don’t really remember. I think they gave us an appointment when we were there for applying and we just had to go back on that date to pick up. It was a month or so maybe?

    Ben

  20. Nataly Says:

    hello Ben.
    i’m Nataly from Russia. my boyfriend is a Hungarian. he proposed me. and we are planning to get married in Hungary. Your story gave me too much pain. i’m really sorry for what you have been through.And now i’m scared to be in a same condition as your wife.
    could you please, give me an advise, what is the best way to do, not to face such a terrible difficulties in your Motherland.
    thank you very much in advance for your reply.i hope for it.
    best regards.
    Nataly.

  21. DEVENDRA Says:

    hi i did read all your story it is very good to see that you got hungarian permanent residency ,i have also got a letter from cornivus university for ba in international bussiness tell me that after doing that will i be able to get a permanent residency or work permit there ,thanks

  22. Stephanie Galaitsis Says:

    Have you ever heard of people having more trouble who apply from real third world countries, or the Middle East? Do some people have harder times than others? Is there anywhere online that talks about this?

  23. Jecsi1983 Says:

    I am glad that I stumble upon your blog. My husband and I are planning on moving to Hungary in the next year or so and I am a Cambodian-American citizen and he is a Hungarian Citizen. I didn’t realize it’s such a hassle to get your permanent status there. We just had a baby this year so we are getting him his dual citizenship… so it’s just going to be me having the difficult time getting a permanent status…

    We also named our son Bence.

    Congrats on the marriage and having your wife get her permanent status in Hungary!!

  24. Manish Says:

    Hi Guys ,
    I also have the permanent residenc permit like most of you.
    I would appreciate if anyone could answer my querry – “Are we allowed to work in an another EU nation by vrtue of our permit , OR we can only work in Hungary ? “. Due to the tough economic times and job slashing, it could be required one day ..
    Thanks all

  25. Jasmin Says:

    Hi everyone,

    There is a small company in Budapest which can help you getting Hungarian resident visa, id, driving license etc. I was very happy with their service. They are honest and reasonably priced. Company is called Helpers KFT. check here http://www.helpers.hu/papereater

    J.

  26. Jasmin Says:

    Sorry bad link :) http://www.helpers.hu/papereater.php this one should work

  27. Alex Says:

    Mate your life would have been much easier if you just payed around 600 EUR to one of the relocation companies.They would have done it all for you. Alternatively, you could have booked appointment at the immigration office on a specific day/time rather than going into that “chaos” room and waiting for 4 hours.
    Honestly, it is your fault because you did not inform properly.

    All the best.

  28. bence8810 Says:

    Hello All,

    Sorry for the long silence, I have been away from this site.

    To Alex: Yes, I guess I could have paid someone, but as being “home” I felt pretty comfortable doing it all by myself, and did not imagine the hassle we were up against. The appointment stuff I knew about and every time I went there and waited 4 hours I had an appointment, go figure that. Its just a crazy institution, but since I talked to others and heard horror stories from different EU countries. Seems like Immigration is made to be such a hassle, maybe to reduce the number of applicants?

    Don’t know, but to all, good luck and keep at it. The law allows you to have the permit, just don’t give up.

    Cheers

    Ben

  29. Attila Says:

    Well, there might be a good reason for why the Hungarian authorities work the way they do and they may not be as inefficient as you think although I understand your concern.
    I am a native Hungarian (British citizen) living in the UK. I see how many immigrants or would be immigrants legal/or illegal from Africa, Asia, South-America and some even from North-America try to obtain residency in a EU country to later get into the UK or other EU countries with documents obtained elsewhere in the European Union.
    Also, the existence of the Schengen zone requires all member states to follow strict and thorough procedures when issuing residence permits.
    Unfortunately, it is always the honest people, like you, who suffer and I am sure there is plenty of room for improvement to lessen or weed out burocracy in the Hungarian way of doing things.

  30. bence8810 Says:

    Szia Attila,

    Yes, I agree with your point, the restrictions need to be in place and exceptions should not be given to anyone, that would compromise the EU’s borders. However, if you have an appointment say at 12noon, they should actually serve you at 12noon, otherwise don’t give appointments out in the first place.

    Like you said, its the bureaucracy which needs to be eliminated, not the rules.

    Cheers

    Ben

  31. holly mess Says:

    Comment removed….

  32. bence8810 Says:

    Wow nice comment, thanks for stopping by.

    Ben

  33. jolene Says:

    szia!!
    it’s amazing to read about what others have gone through trying to get married :)

    Anyway, I am now currently in a relationship with a Hungarian I met on my travels… we’ve been going strong for almost two years and marriage seems to be in the picture, especially if we are to have a future together.
    Seeing as you’ve been through it I would like a few words of advice…

    basically he is now working in London and we’ve been in a long distance relationship for about half a year… i will be flying over to London later this year to spend a few months with him again but can’t stay for long as I am not allowed to work there and I don’t have that much cash to last me any longer.

    The only viable option to remain together is to actually get married and then work together in London…However, from what I’ve dug up from various internet sources… in order for me, his spouse, work in London, he has to either be a permanent resident there (which he isn’t… he works there on his EU passport) or I had to own an EU passport (which I don’t). And in order to get an EU passport I would need to have married him and lived in Hungary for 3 years. He doesn’t want to work in Hungary as the money is shit but I really don’t know how to go about this…

    Any advice?
    we’d be really grateful.
    I hold a Malaysian passport.

    my email is EMAIL REMOVED i’d be really grateful for a response
    god i hope no spambots catch me.

  34. bence8810 Says:

    Szia Jolene,

    Its always good to hear from another Hungarian mix relationship :) Best of luck to you guys!

    Well, that’s a tough one to answer, I am afraid I dont have much knowledge about it. If you do get married, I believe that will only entitle you to stay in Hungary permanently, and not sure about England. Since the UK is not in the Schengen area where we can travel without a passport, they’ll require you to have some sort of a VISA for long term stay, as opposed to us residents of the EU who can stay unlimited.

    Our situation was different, we wanted to stay in Hungary so for us the only way to go was to get the residency permit.

    Also, if you get married in Hungary to begin with, you won’t face any of the issues we faced, as we got married in Japan and trying to import our marital status back to Hungary was the difficult part.

    Hope all goes well, and keep us updated,

    Ben

  35. Richard Richards Says:

    Hi everybody,

    Please i will like to know if it is possible to apply for the hungarian permenant resident from England since me and my wife are living and working in England. We got married in Hungary and but left when i got a Job here in the UK. Please can someone share information on how i will be go about it because my 5 years resident permit i got from hungary is about to expire. Look forward to ur answer

  36. ali Says:

    Hi. does any one know what documents are required for permanent visa application? is apeh certificate of last previous year required?

  37. Henry Says:

    RICHARD PLEASE!!! IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO APPLY FOR PERMANENT RESIDENCY PERMIT ABROAD! ! ! UNLESS YOU MOVE BACK TO HUNGARY WITH YOUR WIFE,
    THEN YES IT WILL BE POSSIBLE AFTER BEING LEGALLY RECOGNISED IN THE COUNTRY WITH YOUR WIFE FOR 2 YEARS. NOTHING LESS THAN THAT! 1 YEAR AND 11 MONTHS IS NOT ACCEPTED.
    BUT FOR SURE YOU WILL BE GIVEN 2 YEARS VISA WHILE IN HUNGARY.

    I BELIEVE THE WORD RESIDENCY PERMIT IS A COMON ENGLSH WORD AND EXPLAINS EVERY THING BETTER. YOU NEED TO BE IN THAT COUNTRY FIRST, BEFORE APPLYING FOR FURTHER PERMISION TO LIVE THERE.
    WE ARE TALKING ABOUT “PERMANENT RESIDENT”
    NOT THE USUAL 5 YEAR VISA, THIS IS 10 YEARS (PR) A GREEN CARD. DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO BE RECOGNISED AS A PERMANENT RESIDENT IN A COUNTRY?

    HEHEHE
    BEFORE YOU GET HUNGARIAN 2YEARS OR 5YEARS VISA WHILE YOU ARE IN HUNGARY I BET YOU WOULDN’T WANT TO DISCUSS THE HELL YOU WILL SEE THERE, JUST LIKE ALL OF US DID.

    EVEN THOUGH YOU WIN VISA LOTTERY, YOU FIRST NEED A VISA TO GET INTO THAT COUNTRY BEFORE OBTAINING THEIR GREEN CARD.

    KEEP INTOUCH RICHARD, AND BETTER READ MORE OF BEN’S LETTER WITH HIS WIFE YUKA,
    I GUESS YOU DIDN’T READ IT AT ALL.
    ALL THE BEST ,
    HENRY.

  38. Henry Says:

    Hi Ben,

    Szeretem nagyon Magyarországot!

    heheheheehhe;) Yuka dear, welcome to Unted States of Magyarország! ! !

    Ben I’m glad for you and your wife. I can imagine what the lady must have gone through.

    We all pass through the same mess, it wasn’t funny at all.
    My marriage was held in Spain and i suffered exactly the same shit like you did.
    I lost so much money because my movement was restricted at a time due to their constant appointments and unnecessary immigration checking if we do live together or not, interogating my mother-inlaw if the marriage was real.

    Come on Ben you were LUCKY!!!

    my marriage was held in Spain but i still had to translate the marriage certificate to Margyar.. I was like FOR HEAVEN SAKE THIS IS STILL EUROPEAN MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE AND YOU ARE IN EUROPEAN UNION, EVEN SHENGEN TO SHENGEN??? igen, tudjuk but we need Margyar marriage certificate.
    I paid for translation which cost fortune in Hungary depending on when you want to pick it, and i wanted mine EXPRESS SERVICE.

    After the translation you will need to submit it for LEGALISATION which takes atleast 1 month before the ORIGINAL MARGYAR MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE will be issued, then you forward it to the immigration for further process.

    Well Ben you must THANK your mother aswell to have given you the house contract and so on and to have been in support of your marriage, because i am sure she was aswell interogated and without her full support every thing you were doing with your wife would have been considered as fake marriage and be delayed, just UNLESS you finally have a child together. TRUST ME, YOU CAN CALL IT MADNESS BUT THEY DON’T CARE.

    OOOH!! Less i forget about their less consign attitude ;)

    Well as regards to you going back to the office after 10 years time, is not necessary any more as she may apply for NATIONALITY after 3 years in Marriage but never let them know you and your wife lives abroad.

    Feel free to ask more question Ben.

    Henry.

  39. broker forums Says:

    okay this transformations every thing, I am just learning not to be surprised about the issues I discover on the web. Bless you for the article!

  40. louise Says:

    i have the same problem, i got married in portugal with my hungarian wife , she is from budapest we are now waiting for the marriage certificate in magyar for 6 months me and my wife we have provide all the necesary document they ask from us but still no good improvement she wants to have my family name before she can move to portugal finaly to live with me, somebody should help with advice we are spending alot living separate, we still dont know if cos she is from budapest cos we have family friends here in lisbon who got married with a hungarian the got same document within 1 month and half but the wife is not from budapest , we still have dout if budapest its a nail….. thx louise

  41. LOUISE Says:

    pls sorry for my bad english we are waiting on advice for what to do on this issue

  42. baptista Says:

    hi louise i am from brasil i got married with a hungarian beter gat a lawyer you are battling with comunism i cant ilustrate my own problem with magyer when i got married to my lovely wife

  43. Tatto Says:

    Hello I am from Nepal. I am studying Switzerland since 2007 . My course is going to finish after 3 and half years. After finished i want to apply resident permit in Hungary . Is it possible to get it . If is not ? if you have any idea please help me of this case. In others, I have done Culinary Diploma hotel management course from swiss. Is it possible to apply work permit Visa or not?
    If you are really interesting to help me of this cases please anyone can answering who have good idea about it. I really want to give thanks for this help.
    Thanking you.

  44. baptista Says:

    hi tatto my opinion is for you to ask for hungarian visa since you still had your valid student visa, make vist to hungary meet imigration lawyers in hungary mostly in budapest they will help you i am sure about it, doing things personaly with the imigration in hungary could be a big risk for you they hard diffrent calibles in the imigration with diffrent system of work , some are there to fustrate things , cheers

  45. alex Says:

    I am from ukraine i have hungarin girl friend. i am in hungary

    we want to marry in hungary . and after marriage we are planning to live in germany ( i have relative in germany)

    my question is that if we got married can we move to other shengen state and can we work there?

    and if we married so in first time validity of residence permit will how long?

    Sorry for my bad english

    Waiting yours comment

  46. baptista Says:

    why dont you ask for lawyers in hungary , than to write silly coment here , people like you make others suffer with hungarian imigration service now you want to marry your girl friend cos you want to live in germany huh this why they think everybody want their resident permit throuhg marriage , cheers and dream more

  47. hpzoe Says:

    hi ben,

    Me and my hungarian husband has been following your site…we have the same and i mean the same chaos with you both with all that bureaucracy crap and mess… the damn translation process, imagine i showed her the receipt where my [ORIGINAL COPY] birth certificate was issued because this woman said my Original birth certificate issued from my country was effin fake hehe (how the heck can she tell if its fake or not when she probably hasnt seen one LOL… we had to have a red ribbon and a seal for some documents like the CENOMAR (Certificate of NO MARRIAGE) and on my birth certificate that both are original… we just really need to have a document translated in hungarian that said “SINGLE”…. what a nightmare, we barely slept, they really had to make sure that i wasnt after my husbands money or just after to live in hungary (which i didnt really care, id rather live in a tropical country or near the beach than living there in fear, i even wanted just to scream that i want to go home where i dont face this kind of bureaucracy and hassle, where i can drive freely and not meet mean people… i think we all have our own unique issues as well… jeeez we spent more on the stupid documents(which i believe they’re not so crazy about it) than on our food, thank God our daughter wasnt born that time… it was a hell of a ride… my husband said we will make a book out of this chaos hehe… we did got the residency permit last dec2009 good until dec2014 … we are visiting my family now since I gave birth to our Zoe… well we have gone through this nightmare, I mean there is so much to share, I know some few people there as well having problems with their stuff… i can relate with you and yuka…

  48. bence8810 Says:

    Hi there,

    Sounds exactly like what we’ve gone through :) . Sorry to hear it by the way, and looking back the 3 years that passed since we are through all this, it doesn’t seem that painful anymore. It did feel horrible though going through the process itself.

    I’ve since connected with a very dear Dutch friend who’s Japanese wife is going through the same hell in Holland currently.

    I started to think that Immigration is just made nearly impossible to filter out peopel who are not determined enough…

    Anyways, all in all you’re through it, so congrats and enjoy Magyarorszag :)

    Ben

  49. hpzoe Says:

    By the way as I was looking at Yuka’s card, i compared it to my residence permit and got me confused as to why mine says its a card but its just Tartozkodasi Engedely (Residence Permit) ….hehe its a sticker on my passport… but it says below “Az Engedely Tipusa: Tartozkodasi Kartya” and “Megjegyzesek: tartozkodasi kartya magyar allampolgar csaladtagja reszere”…. I really hope I wont have problems again :( hehe i dont wanna go through hell and back again..

    Cheers,
    hpzoe

  50. hpzoe Says:

    Hungary is really a nice place but we are not sure if we want to live there since there are so many aspects we shouldnt live there at all…like the laws, the bureaucracy, not so many high paying jobs, but its a good place to raise children, we used to live in a city where its really kid friendly. (This was the first part of my comment above, got deleted when i tried to submit it.. hehe )

    all the best,
    hpzoe

  51. Pita Says:

    Hey, just asking, does it matter how long you have been married? I read somewhere you have to be married for 3 years before– is that true?

  52. bence8810 Says:

    That is not true, at least it wasn’t 5 years ago. We got married and immediately applied.

    Ben

  53. Pita Says:

    I just really hope it’s not the way now either.. We don’t want as much horrible stuff as you all guys got.. kinda scares me as i read them :D

  54. bence8810 Says:

    Immigration is indeed a tricky one, but eventually we got through it :) .

    Good luck!
    Ben

  55. baptista Says:

    you dont have to be scare pita just as i advise diffrent people anything what so ever you want to do with the imigration office in hungary always consult a lawyer i mean real lawyer cos they are some are there to fustrate things only if you lucky your file goes to the beter and good hearted magyar , cheers baptista from brasil

  56. manav Says:

    HI dears!! its really very informational page. Thanks all for your comments and sharing. Me and My GF are also planning a Marriage this Year but not in HUngary and in other EEA country ! what I want to know is there any requirement to make it acceptable in Hungary??? any Idea what will they require to accept it in Hungary?? I am Asian ! and I dont really care they give me residency or not, coz I am planning to marry her so that she may go back to either India with me or any other Country. and also I hope it will not be a problem for her as I am the guy WHO is NOT HUNGARIAN. and I will have to go through all this pain. so Any Idea how will it be accepted in Hungary by law?
    Thanks for your reading and paying attention !!

    Wish you all Good luck.
    Manav

  57. baptita Says:

    hi manav , first of all you have to redister your marriage in hungarian embassy in da country where your planing to get married , you have to let them know that you want to redister your marriage in hungary they will send your file to hungary for the redistration or your wife could do that on her own to be saver cheers

  58. Pita Says:

    Another question, they told me if we want to get married in Hungary, I need to get some other certificate for my kiwi partner that ensures and states he can marry someone from an other nation, and that he is legally not married… any specific name for this certificate, in english? I hope someone understands what I mean :p

  59. baptista Says:

    hi pita consult a lawyer if you getting married in hungary a time those requuirments they ask from you are not real just part of fustrating you get a lawyer and your through with them very easy i know hungary beter than the maygers cheers

  60. Maria Says:

    Hello all,

    Just one advice and the most important above all. YOU MUST GET MARRIAGE IN HUNGARY to avoid all this hassle and incredible miserable bureaucracy of “Hungary The Land of People’s Dreams”.

    I got marriage to Hungarian man then I applied to al the possible papers which were easy to get since everything was settle in Hungary. I am from Mexico.

    I use to live in Hungary over 4 years and I can be honest with you all, it was really easy to get all the necessary papers and authorization to work and so on, so, in other words, to avoid all the problems, try to get marriage in Hungary for sure.

    Regarding the life in Hungary? I DONT RECOMMEND YOU TO LIVE IN HUNGARY if you are not able to speak this language because you are going to be mistreated in this land wherever you go, you are going to see yourself in trouble if you don’t have your wife or husband “attached on you” but even then, they don’t really care you.

    You will be mistreated at supermarkets, stores, banks and so on. so, they don’t like foreigners at all and the hate each other (beside they are very, extremely envy) imagine an immigrants???

    You even cannot ask police’s help in any trouble you get in (even if it is not your fault) because they are liar, cold blood and corrupt in every way that they really are keen to screw you it is so simple, just accuse you, arrest you and after hours under the “communism style” they will call the “Hungarian Perfect Law” to sue you because they don’t believe on foreigner’s word but they believe on cold blood Hungarians words.

    Just come to this country if you really wish to explore and exploit it as a whole then get the hell out of here with all the documents you can.

    Sorry for those hard words but they are true. My husband doesn’t like his own country because of all those things that happened in there but people don’t speak out.

    When I use to live there I could be present almost in many shit situation that happened to people in there, because they control your life, make it harder and control you from your front house, your workplace, religion and more.

    Just think twice.

    Maria (John’s wife)

  61. baptista Says:

    nice coment maria, but in hungary those real hungarians with real love of humans never want to live in hungary i have meet with alot of them . if you got to meet a hungarian living abroad u will never findout how the country looks like just when u step ur feet into the country then u gat to know beter . my wife is free in brasil and she loves the system , to my own understanding i belive forieners or imigratn etc should be treated well, cos what they see and how they are being treated is what they will carry out thats experience cheers batista from brasil

  62. Manav Says:

    Hello Baptista
    Thanks for your reply!! but after this I am confused because I am marrying in Denmark country because there is minimal requirement and less hassle for paperwork. and I can be married in 2 weeks. I want to travel back to my country with my Gf after Marriage. but if we register marriage on Hungarian embassy where we marry, but do we also need to marry in Hungary again??
    and then how will they process??? Will we have to marry in Hungary also !!
    is there any website which gives legal info on on marriage laws??
    i wait your response

    thanks again

  63. Madzy Says:

    Hello! Japan is not a third country. It is in asia but it doesn’t belong to the third countries. Japan is actually a richer country than hungary. I’m sorry for what you had gone through. I got married here in hungary as well but fortunately we did not have a lot of problems on the papers. Doing the papers is really challenging but if you know what documents to submit, or if you need a translator, there are no problems getting the papers you wanted. My only problem here is they are just to slow with the papers. Like, if you have an appointment today they will then prepare your paper and let you sign things. In hong kong, they give you forms before applying. Here, from my experience, they fill out the forms for you. And it takes a lot of time. We got married before 3 days before my visa expires. And on the last day we applied for my residency, they took my papers and let me stay here. It’s all about luck i suppose.

  64. Madzy Says:

    To get married in Hungary..
    1. You need a paper that says you are single. In my country it is called legal capacity ..You can get this paper from your embassy if you are already in hungary. Ask the embassy to translate it for you in hungarian.
    2. Your birth certificate. You need to find an official translator to translate it for you. You have to wait for at least a week for the papers to be translated. Of course, you have to pay for that.
    3. Go to the city hall for an appointment and to register. You need a translator if one of you does’nt speak hungarian. If your papers are good they will give you a date when you want to get married or you choose the date. And oh, they will need your passport for verification. They are not going to take it so don’t worry. This is based from my experience. But if both of u are non hungarians, i do not know what papers you will need to submit.
    As for applying to the immigration after the marriage, You can go to there and they will tell you what you need to bring or you can call. I hope this helps for people asking how to get married here. As for hungarians treating foreigners badly, i cannot say anything bad as i haven’t and i hope i would not experience being treated badly. Hungarians had been very friendly even the immigration officers down to the clerk in the town hall.

  65. baptista Says:

    greetings manav ur answer is that once you get married with a hungarian or any european union citizen in any part of the world you dont need to re…marry in his or her country of origin , once ur marriage had being held in denmarck contact the hungarian embassy in denmarck they will give you all the necesary feedback about getting ur marriage redisterd in hungary , atimes it takes not less than 2 months to be redisterd in hungary. u will receive a marriage certificate from hungarian imigration, u dont need to remarry once you get your marriage redisterd through the hungarian embassy in denmarck cheers

  66. baptista Says:

    a marrige certificate will be issued in mayger

  67. Bee Says:

    Hi Manav!

    Denmark is a good choice to get married, because the process is faster than in Hungary. I’ve got married with my Pakistani husband in Amsterdam almost a year ago and now we would like to move to Hungary.
    I think the Denmark process is no different than the dutch, i tell you how we did it. We asked for an international marriage certificate which is in english/german/french and dutch, got an Apostile stamp on it from the Rechtbank which is a Court or something, and all this has to be translated into hungarian with a certified translator. Better call the Hungarian Embassy in Denmark and ask them! They will give you a website or a list of approved translators. Then you got to the Hungarian embassy in Charlottenlund? with 60 euro, plus passports and fill out some forms about identity and stuff. They will send all these documents to the Hungarian Office of Immigration and Nationality. They said
    to get the marriage registered in Hungary and get the marriage certificate or notification it takes 4-6 weeks. And you can choose that you want this hungarian certificate to be sent back to Denmark or to some hungarian address.

  68. Manav Says:

    Hello all.
    Thanks to you Baptista
    Also Thanks BEE
    for your valuable response. we are a little confuse about marrying in Denmark as we are planning our first marriage :) I request you to please advice procedure about Denmark how you made it . I call them and they say I shall come with papers and then after they approve I must call Town Hall and ask for a date either MOnday or Tuesday. what I am confused is that does it mean we will have to travel 2 times there or it can be like we send papers by email and they approve and then we call from Hungary to Town Hall, and if they have date for us, then we register and go there on the requested week. (monday till friday)
    can you also tell us your success story.. I mean how you won this Battle of Love. I am really confused about my 2 time travel in Denmark. coz if any problem with docs it will cause us extra unneedful work or our papers.
    Your reply is precious
    Thanks

  69. Bee Says:

    Hi Manav!

    so you guys are living in Hungary right now, and just want to go to Denmark to get married. Ok…. My husband just said that it’s maybe harder to get married in Denmark or anywhere else for an eastern european and an asian :( you know the prejudice…. :( if these two are getting married it only can be because of some thousand euro going from one person’s pocket to the other’s….
    doing some google search typing “getting married in denmark” shows a few useful sites
    for example this one http://goscandinavia.about.com/od/denmar1/qt/marrieddenmark.htm

    when i was preparing to get married in amsterdam, i had to get an
    unmarried certificate showing my marital status that i’m single, birth certificate,
    all had to be legalised with an Apostile stamp from the Foreign Affair office in Budapest. i came from Amsterdam to Hungary for 2 days just to get these.

    but as i see the requirements in Scandinavian countries are different.
    but i think you have to travel there 2 times, once you file your papers in
    the City hall or something, and when you get approved call them for the
    date. the good thing is Denmark is not so far from Hungary, and flying there
    does not cost a fortune!!!
    To make sure you don’t have problem with papers you can still go the the Danish consulate in Hungary and ask them in person…. i prefer to ask
    everything in person than speaking on the phone…whenever is possible

  70. baptista Says:

    hi manav , it depends where you guys which to get married in portugal and spain the marriage of a thing goes smothly no matter your nationality i got married there i am not european and my wife is from eastern europe hungary after our marriage was redisterd in hungary therefore we where issued marriage certificate in hungary after we got our marriage redisterd cheers

  71. baptista Says:

    exactly what you need bachelorhood certificate,and birth certificate with apostle you can get that from your local goverment where your born and with a legalised stamp from forien affair ministry then you get it translated to the language means the country ur planing to get married in……. there are always official translators , thats the civil marriage if you which to get the church wedding then you need to get you birth certificate and your baptism card both of you and you guys has to be catholics thats what i know cheers

  72. Manav Says:

    Thanks a lot basptista, you are really a wonderful man. (L) I have almost arranged documents from India, now we are waiting for the exact dates and good accomodation in Denmark. I will update my experience on this page after our own Success story. Thanks a lot everyone here till now. I will also like to mention that http://www.airbnb.com is a website where you can find cheap accomodation world over. and its safe to pay. I booked my acomodation through this website.
    for further experience I will update … CHEERSSSSSSSS

  73. Manav Says:

    Can anyone tell me how long will Hungarian Embassy will take after the marriage in Copenhagen, I mean if Marriage is done and marriage certificate is given on Friday and we go to Hungarian Embassy on Monday, how many day will they take to proceed.i.e. for the forming, application. as we are planning days in copenhagen after marriage, so how many days Hungarian embassy needs for their processsing. as we have planned a travel for 10 days after we get marriage certificate.
    any reply will be respectful and Dear
    Thanks

  74. Manav Says:

    and also. DO we need wedding costumes for wedding or it can be done in our choice of dress???
    I wait your kind reply

    Thanks

  75. baptista Says:

    hi manav after the marriage certificate had being issued by the danish authority you have to ask the hungarian embassy for another legalise of a thing you will get ur marriage certificate translated to hungarian and you will get a stamp from the embassy on the translated marriage certificate issued by hungarian embassy in conpenhagen, the the next will be for them or ur will should do that on her own if she has acces to go to the budafoki ut10 to get the marriage redisterd it will be faster and server cheers

  76. Sumantra Says:

    Dude, I was thinking of taking the MA international relations or PhD in Budapest…but I am confused, about during studies work permit, and residency there…can you tell me something on that?

  77. Manav Says:

    HI Sumantra,
    if your study is full time you can work, but mostly work is available in Hungarian language, so if you are good in speaking Hungarian language you can work. there are student job and some international offices which gives full time job, but for that you will need a letter from college/university that you are a full time student. and in that sense you will have to spend 8 hrs a day at workplace. so the bottom line is if you have full time study you will have to study (speak with your college/University). and then after that you can work. Your work permission and residence permit will be controlled by your college/University
    let us know if anything else is confusing
    Cheerrrss

  78. baptista Says:

    well good luck there is no job in hungary hungarians are without job its not easy for a student i guess soo , but there is an office in vaci ut call bella you have to get a tax card i mean redister with the tax office b4 u could get job from them you can get few houres job but they pay less cheers

  79. hillary Says:

    greetings to all , i would apreciate if someone could inform us about the resident permit in hungary we got married out of hungary in european union country as well shengen country like hungary , presantly we are in hungary with the family we decide to consult a lawyer in budapest to know how we can get our family resident my wife is a hungarian the lawyer gave us sicky decision that is we want family resident in hungary the hungarian authority has to send a kind of mesage to the country where we got our five yers resident permit to get my resident permit councile soo we could get a hungarian resident permit it sounds sicky if the law in hungary never permit dual resident permiy . we will be great for an advice on what to do cos we are not ready to let our resident permit that we suffer for years in another european union country to be councile , we are waiting for an advice….. hillary and eva

  80. hillary Says:

    if there is no chance of dual resident permit in hungary

  81. baptista Says:

    greetings hillary your wellcome to the united state of hungary , you just have to be very carefull some lawyers are very bad, no matter the amount of money you pay him or her , some of them are better friends of the imigration police they work hand in hand to protect their american hungarian nationality .you can put ur eyes and face right down to know and you will see the size of shoes in hungary , if i am in your position i will kick that lawyer ass, no imigration has the right to councile a resident permit , you can adopt hungarian resident permit since your wife is from hungary your resident permit in another eu country will always be at safe , becarefull if you had the hungarian resident the called it perminant is not realy perminant if anything happen in ur marriage your in the biggest bull shit in that country you may be stateless person in future while you in hungary soo be very carefull with some of the lawyers bid beter meet with lawyers who are not hungarians cheers baptista

  82. baptista Says:

    if there are rooms for dual nationality in hungary there will also be room for dual resident permit dont let those amature lawyers to fustrate you they are worster than imigration igen and tudom is enough to hang you up in hungary cheers

  83. Manav Says:

    Hello there
    I wanted to know that we have married in Denmark, and now have applied for registration in Hungary from her municipality Office, they say it will take 2 months to register. I want to know what will happen after they register our marriage in Hungary? I mean as I am on a student Visa now, and I have visa till 2012 sept. will they cancel my Student resident permit and change it or will I have to apply for this change of status in my Resident Permit after this 2 months? any reply will be appreciated :)
    thanks

  84. baptista Says:

    greetings and congratulation i wish you happy marriage life, assuming your wife is working and living in denmarck you have the right to apply for the resident permit there according to european union law and after you may obtain the danish resident permit you may come back to hungary for your resident permit your permit in denmarck will not be councile in hungary , but if you had hungarian student visa and want your family resident in hungary you will be giving 5 years resident in hungary and your student visa may likely be council cos you can never had two resident permit in the same country. wake up 5 is bigger than 2 cheers baptista

  85. Manav Says:

    thanks for your reply
    but actually she is not working now. as she just finished her studies, and we are back in Hungary, but she wants to change country as soon as possible, becauuse of Gypsies problem and the govt. treatment on Gypsies and Hungarian, I mean gypsies get more benefits than Hungarian i.e. Social benefits and other things, She is willing to change country and we will be moving together in a nice country after I change my student to family Visa, what I want to knwo is that as we have married abroad, and Now we have apply for our marriage to be valid in Hungary. they ask us to wait 2 months and we will get a paper which says we are married in Hungary.
    So my question is thta will I need to change my student permit into a Family permit or not?
    as with family permit I have more option rather than being on a student visa… And also after 2 months when they wil give mus paper of our Hungarian Marriage validity, How long will it take to change my student status into Family Member??

    Thannks again :)

  86. baptista Says:

    greetings manav , you will get a hungarian marriage certificate after 2 months that is sure as soon as u get the marriage certificate go to aply for ur family resident probably if the officer is not a kieyk comunist man or woman within one month you will get your family resident

  87. Manav Says:

    and after I get this marriage certificate , will I need to got to BAH, 60 Budafoki ut?
    and what if the officer is kieyk type, how long will i take?

    Thanks man
    You guys are a great help!! :)

  88. baptista Says:

    hello manav , i am now in budapest for my perminant resident permit but the law has change after you get the marriage certificate this is what you need to apply directly to bah . you need maximun 800,000 thousand forint in your account to prove that you can take care of yourself while your in the country secondly you have to make your insurance and your hosuse contract where your living with your wife and your marrige certificate . then you can go to apply directly to bah in budafoki but make sure your always around after you applied coz they will come for contrl and interview , after that you will get your resident permit nobody can stop that they can only delay your application but sure will give you cheers

  89. afrikana Says:

    hungary is just a bunch of …..

    ADMIN edit!
    Sorry not bad mouthing here, please take your sentiment elsewhere. You’ll be banned next time!

  90. raida Says:

    hello…everyone..greetings from queens of hills darjeeling(india),i have follpwing thisite since 2008, when ben get married with his lovely japanis wife,unfortunatly he is not longer available here,so…friends any body can help me out ,i am mba(hospitality and tourism management)and have a bachlor degree in hotel management),i have a morethen 8 years experience so far,i am.looking for a settle my life in hungary,how mucch is the chance for.me.to fet a job in hungary,i love hungary because of past history,all hungarians are belongs to asia(mangols),by citizen i am an indian but ethicaly i am gorkha,please somebody help me,
    thanks in advance to all,

  91. raida Says:

    hey africana dont use bad word,every country has own immigrations rules,if you not able to settle in hungary its your bad luck,but by your word sense like you are racist,by your name africana thats means you looks like a black coal,go back to sherangiti,hows that???ha??? fillinf some pain,so from next time think before write here anything,this site is not for a fighting at all,c,mon guys we must thanks to ben and his wife,who give us to write and share something here,just try to bring back on this site,

    cheers,

  92. Manav Says:

    Hi raida,
    I am from India, I would like to tell you that life is hard here as other Foreign Countries. Salaries are less and expenses are High. On a job YOu earn from 400 euros to above and 200 EUro is the Minimum Flat Rent.
    For yourself Try applying to some International Companies in Hungary, Since you have good experience and better degrees, I Believe you might be selected. once you selected try applying for a Permit to enter and Stay from Hungarian High Commission.
    this is easy and best.
    I wish you luck.

  93. baptista Says:

    greetings raida, you dont have to use those hard words to africana he or she is just trying to exagurate his stupidity right here. it is left for the site admi to decide his removal of his or her coment and never called someone black coal, and never have to call africa shenrangiti i am a brazilian i am black and i guess ur coming from india , i have help alot of indains origin in brasil to settle in brasil and europe , so next time you wana coment on peoples stupity just have to face that person i guess not all africans are stupid like him, cheers

  94. baptista Says:

    greetings to all, i here by congratulate the office of imigration in hungary the new resident card is just like the european union driving liecence, we dont need to carry our passport arround with us. this is a good achivement hungary is meeting up with other eu nations

  95. DUMDUM Says:

    My husband (who`s hungarian) showed me this blog and right now we`re in the middle of the process. We registered already our marriage here (we got married in Chile) and just gives me hope that in the end everything`s going to be alright. Yes, it`s difficult because I don`t speak the language, but soon I start with lessons. I think you need to have a positive mind at any time.

    Regards, from a chilean girl

  96. Marilyn Tassy Says:

    I am glad to hear that Yuka finally is legal in the Hungarian mind at least.
    I have been married since 1978 to my Hungarian husband and our 35 year old son is also a Hungrain citizen.( The even found his records at the marrige dept. in Budapest as he was married in Budapest to a Hungarian citizen as well.)
    We own property here in Hungary, can prove we get socisl secruity from the US and I had health insurance and bank statementsWhen we went to the Hungarian immigration office, it was a total nightmare as well.
    I was ready to pack up and dump this place, sell our flat and go back to the US.
    I agree they give no help at all at the immigration office, it is set up so that you must hire a lawyer to get justice in a timely matter.
    My former daughter-in-law from Hungary was treated much better at the US embassy in Budapest then I ever was at the Hungarian immigration office in Budapest.
    I have finally been told to come in and pick up my 5 year resident permit but I am not ready to go through the hell again of even entering that building.
    It is not like Hungary is the place to come to get help or recieve any aid, at least from my point of view, they should be glad people other then down and out’s wish to live here at all.

  97. Marilyn Tassy Says:

    Agian, my son is now thinking of marrying a lady he met in Japan. I don’t think they will even consider living in Hungary but stay in the US since the pospects here don’t seem very bright for a young couple compaired to either Japan or the US.
    Too bad, they have a way of turning away the best.

  98. Marilyn Tassy Says:

    They really do not know what they are doing at the immigration office.
    We sumitted our marriage certificate when I fist applied to stay in Hungary. We were told it was no good although it is good for every legal purpose in the US.We sent for the actual marriage license has they required with our parents names on it etc. After the translations were done, paid for a submitted. We went for God know, the 5th time to immgration only to be told I was going to be deported and we had to translate the marriage certifcate after all.
    It would be helpful if anyone at that office atually knew what was going on.

  99. Marilyn Tassy Says:

    My son is no longer married to a Hungarian national although he is a Hungarian and American with dual citizenship.
    I hate to think of the nightmare it would be if he took his new Japanese wife to Hungary to live as he is still married legally in Hungary as he hasn’t submitted his divorce papers to the Hungarian consualte in the US as of yet.
    Best he stays aways for ever it seems.

  100. hillry Says:

    hi ben we need your advice we are hillary and eva, we base in germany we are in hungary for our permit eva is from hungary while am not, i have five year resident in germany i want to know if the hungarian imigration will issued us a perminant resident or same 5 year resident what we have in germany? waiting for you bence

  101. Marilyn Tassy Says:

    I say best if my son stays away from Hungary because they will probably jail him for bigamy even though he is now divorced from his Hungarian wife legally in the US.
    For some people, it is hard to prove they are married and for other isn’t hard to prove they are now free.
    The system is so mixed up here and not all info is available over the internet.
    I really do believe the lawyers and immigration officers are out for the money only as they make it very hard for anyone to do the work by themselves.
    A few times I thought my Hungarian husband was going to be asked to leave the immigration office as he decided he had enough and gave a speak to the worker for the full time she was shuffling papers and stamping things.
    I swore out loud a few times as well.
    We are old so perhaps they cut us some slack but then again maybe no one has ever told them off before.

  102. Marilyn Tassy Says:

    Sorry, I meant to spell speach not speak.

  103. Luke Says:

    Hi to all of you in the name of JESUS christ
    I’m pakistani i have ukraine visa,i love hungarian lady and we know eachothers for 8 months ago we meet on here on internet,now we want to marriage she is afraid to come pakistan but she is agree to come pakistan but now i’m afraid for this because condition of pakistan
    now we both decided we marriage in ukraine,we both are divorced
    so please tell me few things,i shall be very thankful to all you ,
    1-can we marriage in ukraine?
    2-after marriage can i go with her hungary via border because Eu citizen have right family member of Eu can enter without visa to any EU country
    so please tell me can i go with her hungary,poland,romina,slovika?
    waiting your kind reply
    take care with alot of my prayers all of you
    GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU

  104. baptista Says:

    greetings luke, your what type of visa do you have in ukriane can it be due untill your marriage arangement ? if so then get all your papers ready and your wife should do the same, after mariage you can go to hungarian embassy in ukriane they will give you a c type visa valid for 90 days for you to get in hungary cheers

  105. Sattar Says:

    Hi i am a hungarian and in love with a indian guy, i am pregnant with his baby now and it is only a month .. we are planning to get married in hungary .. I am a hungarian citizen by birth, my boyfriend has got a Certificate of Singlehood and birth certificate attested by the appostile in India and now i will take them to the OFFI office for translation .. and after that he will arrive in germany on tourist visa and arrange for the marriage dates .. do you have any idea how long will it take to get a date for marriage in Hungary ? and after marriage how long does it take to get a residence permit??
    Please advice .. Thanks in advance …

  106. baptista Says:

    hello sattar , it depend the marriage office if there are few people probably u will get a date for mariiage within one month and for your man to be hungarian resident it will take atleast 3 months for the imigration to go through the process cheers

  107. Luke Says:

    thank thank baptista
    so please tell me are you sure they will give me hungarian C visa?
    i want to know
    Eu citizen family member have right to go to any Eu country without visa also
    can i enter hungary or poland via ukraine with my future wife
    once again i’m thanks to you for helping me
    i have tourist visa of ukraine three months visa
    my hungarian girlfriend is also in hungary now she will come when i’ll be there
    she don’t need visa to stay in ukraine up to 90 days
    hope you understand
    take care with alot of my prayers
    JESUS BLESS you and family

  108. baptista Says:

    hello luke it depend on how fast the ukrianian mariage works after you get married with your future wife make sure you and your future wife go to hungarian embassy in ukrian b4 the wedding then after the weding take your mariage certificat and passport to hungarian embassy in ukriane they will issue you the c type of visa nver try to cross the border without visa hungary is a shengen state. when you finaly arrive in hungary u will get a five year resident permit in hungary as a menber of hungarian family cheer

  109. baptista Says:

    but you have to be fast b4 your visa in ukriane runs out luke cheers

  110. Luke Says:

    thank again baptista
    you so sweet
    so how many chance to hungary embassy gives visa to me?
    is there no rule ,apply visa to your home country?
    thanks again
    waiting your reply

  111. baptista Says:

    hello luke after your marriage if you had valid ukrainan visa you have a very big chance to obtain the c type of visa in hungarian embasy in ukraine so make all your document ready as fast as you can or you can still do that in your home country in pakistan sure you will receive the visa to join your wife in hungary that is the law cheers

  112. Luke Says:

    wow nice thanks again again thank to you baptista
    ukraine la firm told me marriage takes two months
    and after that hungarian embassy take two months for register marriage in hungary embassy or hungary
    don’t know
    hope you know
    thanks again
    where you from?

  113. baptista Says:

    yes the marriage takes two months for redister

  114. Sattar Says:

    Thanks Baptista .
    But i am coming to hungary on C type (tourist Visa) for 2 months . and planning to marry withing the visa period . Could you please tell me what do i have to do after i am married on C type (tourist Visa) ??
    Regards
    Salma

  115. Luke Says:

    so kindly tell me after getting Ctype visa
    and arrival in hungary after how many months i get a five year resident permit??
    take care with lot of my prayers
    JESUS BLESS YOU and family

  116. Luke Says:

    Do you know which the travel agent who arrange visa in hungary
    maybe she will get pakistani
    do you know any travel agents who arranged visa for her

  117. baptista Says:

    hello satter after your marriage have being held in hungary you will receive the marriage certificate, you have to deposite about 600 or 800 thousand forint in the bank state that you and your wife has access of living with that and she has to employed i mean working , then with a house contract proving that both of you are living in the same house, so after you got all those requirement ready go straight to the imigration office in your district and apply for the family resident permit cheers

  118. baptista Says:

    hello luke you need no agent for your visa, after your mariage has being held in ukriane make sure your wife will go to hungary to redister your marriage and the hungarian immgration will issue you another marriage certificate in hungarian langugage within two months then u have the right to apply for the c type visa in hungarian embassy where ur living or in your home country in pakistan you dont need any agent for your visa. as soon as you get the marrige certificate issueed from hungary then you have all the right to obtain the c type visa to come in hungary cheers

  119. baptista Says:

    luke if you want your wife to go to pakistan with visa kindly search on google if there is any pakistan embassy in hungary if there is no pakistan embasy in hungary then find any nearby embassy in europe call them and dcleard that she is your wife and you would love they issue her a visiting visa for her to be in pakistan its easy you dont need agent for that but any traveling agent in budapest can do that if she buy tickect from them cheers

  120. baptista Says:

    hi luke i thinkthis link may help your wife to locate pakistan embassy in hungary http://www.pakistanembassy.hu/index.php?ok&kat1=7&akt=7

  121. Sattar Says:

    But baptista until my husband gets a residence permit we cannot open a bank account … I am not working but i have a house so how can it work out ??

  122. baptista Says:

    hello sattar make the bank account on you name and you will let the bank know that both of you wil have access to the money cheers

  123. Sattar Says:

    but then i am not working as i dont have a job in hungary but i don’t even get any grants from hungarian goverment, my mother is working but she lives seperately and i have a flat in my name … wouldn’t it be a problem for my husband to get a residence permit in hungary because of my job status ????

  124. baptista Says:

    greetings sattar, it is not soo that important that you must have a job but it gives more credit and chances for your husband to have resident, make that bank statement prove both of you has that amount 600 to 800 thousand forint am sure he will receive the resident permit cheers

  125. Luke Says:

    thanks once again baptista
    so tell me when i get a c type and i go to hungary
    me also have to open bank account and put 600 to 800 thousand forint in bank?or not
    take care

  126. baptista Says:

    hello luke yes if ur in hungary you need the smae process like sattar

  127. Luke Says:

    why need 600 to 800 thousand forint need for what
    please guide me full detail

  128. Luke Says:

    but my future wife is getting goverment fund yet
    she have no job yet?

  129. baptista Says:

    hello luke that money is just a prove that your going to take care of yourself while ur in the country, if your wife is not working thats not a problem but it creat bigger chance for the resident to be issued fast cheers

  130. Luke Says:

    after how many months i can get resident card
    now we change plan
    she is coming to pakistan and we marriage here in pakistan
    so now please guide how i can get a c type visa
    and we can marriage by pastor here in pakistan and we get a marriage paper same day
    so please guide me
    WHAT I DO NEXT ?
    TAKE CARE THANKS FOR HELPING ME

  131. upendra Bhattarai Says:

    HI! This is Upendra from Nepal.
    Since long time i Wish to migrate myself in Europe. i have tried with many consultant but all effort is useless and only the expenditure is being high.
    Now a local consultant told me there is a easy provision to migrate Hungary and Slovakiya for Nepali and Indian people. is this true ? Do you have any idea ?
    I could not find from internet.
    Could i have a answer regarding this?

    Upendra+9779842632779
    Nepal

  132. baptista Says:

    luke get a civil marrige its easy and beter after that your wife should get the pakistan civil marriage certificate to hungarian embassy for a stamp and legalisation that ur legal married with a hungarian, there after that she should go to hungary with those document for redistration in hungarin imigration the immigration will issue her with a marriage certificate in hungarian languge state that your marriage is legall in hungary then u can now apply with it in hungarian embbasy the c type visa will be issued at the hungarian embassy in pakistan cheers

  133. Luke Says:

    how much time period to register marriage in hungarian imigration ?how many days requried if she go in person to hungarian imigration office for register?
    because if we try to register marriage in hungary embassy then they take 2 months..
    take care

  134. baptista Says:

    hi luke it takes 2 months in hungary

  135. Luke Says:

    hello baptista
    so please tell me this
    if i send my future wife marriage doucments and she sign on papers after that
    this paper is legal
    or can she register in imigration in hungarian office?
    hope you understand
    waiting your reply

  136. baptista Says:

    hello luke the only way is for for you to take your wife to hungarian embassy in pakistan after your marriage the consule will let ur wife know what to do. she will bring the pakistan marriage certificate to hungary for the redistration after two months the hungarian immigration will issue her marrige certificate in hungarian language state that your marriage is legal in hungary cheers

  137. Luke Says:

    Baptista how are you?
    i need your help again
    please tell me
    she don’t have bankstatement how she get pakistani visa in hungary?
    do you know any travell agents who arrange pakistani visa for her?
    and second way is
    we marriage on phone,then i send her marriage certificate with my signature
    and she signature of marriage certificate
    after that she take marriage certificate to hungarian immigration for register of marriage?
    after her signature on marriage certificate she also have right to come to me ?
    please help me in these day
    i really need your help
    take care

  138. baptista Says:

    luke you have to be carefull that system will never work i asure that, your future wife should go to pakistan embassy for visiting visa she needs no agent for that i already post the pakistan embassy in hungary the link pls you have to be genuine for what your doing pls

  139. Luke Says:

    but she don’t have money in bank account
    and bankstatement is also requiredment for getting visa?

  140. barry Says:

    luke if you dont mind tell your wife to write me on this adress if she is in budapest i will help her on how she can get the pakistan visa barry_65@ymail.com

  141. Anooj Says:

    baptista how are you?
    i need your help
    my future wife was agree to come here and now she is afraid
    i know she love me and i love her,so kindly give me way ,or option
    how we can marraige if she not come here?
    please help me
    tak ecare
    GOD BLESS YOU

  142. Ahmed Says:

    Hi everyone!..I have kind of a same situation,i m a bit upset..Its that,i met a hungarian women,back in U.K,in 2008.After that,i moved back to pakistan.We have been intouch,and recently,a year ago,we planned to get married.Last year i applied for an Hungarian visa,but unfortunately it got rejected,without any reason,though i had a strong bank statement etc..This year we plan to meet,but my Hungarian friend,she dsnt have a sound statment to travel to Pakistan,and she’s afraid to travel here,due security issues.I wish ,if we cud get married with her somehow.Any help from you guys will be appreciated.Thanks!

  143. Luk Says:

    Ahmed bahi how are you?
    so if you want get any information give me your messenger id?
    we talk there
    where do you live in pk?
    take care

  144. karim Says:

    hello baptista,,,
    im not from europe and i live legaly in spain,im going to be married with a hungarin girl in spain,and after we will move to gungary to live,how long time take to register our marriage certificate in hungary and how long time take to get residence permit in hungary and she is not working and she get adress with her mother,,,
    thnx

  145. baptista Says:

    hi karim its two months for the redistratrion cheers

  146. Manav Says:

    HI, I am just writing to tell that please don’t make marriage a business to get visa or resident ship. this will spoil the real lover for marrying. if anyone wishes to move to Europe for better life (as not in Pakistan/Nepal/Sri Lanka) write me on my email middlejoshi on gmail DOT com, I can get you a business visa with legal rights, so this way those who marry for love ONLY will not be insulted and those who seeks a better life will get what they really want. I appreciate Baptista efforts for this webpage.

    CHEERS Guys

  147. Manav Says:

    because as i see some cases here, even if they are marrying in Pakistan, Visa is not assured, as Immigration Officer’s duty is the protect citizens rights and prevent outsiders, So even in this case if you are married in Pakistan/Nepal, Still visa is not surety. and you may end up or divorce by wasting each others years. let me know If I can help anyone , i write my contact middlejoshi Gmail Dot com, dont waste money or time neither relations value. Marriage is not a game, it is a sacred relation. Lets value it.

    Cheerssss

  148. Ahmed Says:

    salam,luk bhai my email id is k_ahmed111@yahoo.com

    take care

  149. baptista Says:

    hi manav how are you doing? i hope everything about you are in success, listen i dont reply those guys i found out they just want to get to europe by sham marriage i dont do ilegal things and i am not in support of ilegal things there are inocent people that got married for love yet they are going through hell. for example yuka and ben. i got married with my wife for love yet hungarian immigration has to crowl me and my wife on the ground before i could receive my resident permi,t so people like luke and others who are even in position to make sham marriage on phone craps i dont reply people of that kind cheers manav be bless

  150. Manav Says:

    Dear Android, it is funny, that we are speaking about relations and you are confused about your making your website mobile friendly.
    But OK, if you use GOOGLE , I am sure someone sure has that doe already. or you can ask your service provider to give you a Mobile Domain.

    Cheers

  151. Manav Says:

    Hi Baptista, I trust you and I am not afraid about this, I just don’t want anyone to feel in future they make mistake, while we can learn from others. Here we try to help and giv others a feeling of relaxation. I got married in Denmark, and we got registered in Hungary, shortly I will apply for change of my status. What I found is that Marrying in Denmark was really fun, I met with people who I never met before (and maybe will never met) but they were so nice and happy for our marriage I was feeling so lucky. I really love Danish people.
    and thanks for making this a helping page for LOVE :D ;)

  152. baptista Says:

    thanks manav best of luck

  153. luk Says:

    i’m not including these peoples
    we are really in love
    she don’t want to live with me here in my country
    that why we talking this step
    otherwise i have good good life smooth life
    take care

  154. baptista Says:

    hi luke okay now i tried to belive you for real, what you have to do is get D visa for tourist contact me i will direct you on what to do untill you gain success about ur mariage statue contact manav as he promise to help, i can see manav is for real and God has help and direct him cheers

  155. Ahmed Says:

    Hi luke,here is my email id k_ahmed111@yahoo.com

  156. Goobersmoocher Says:

    From what y’all are saying, i am begining to have serious reservations about moving to Hungary. My wife is Hungarian, we have been married over a year now and have a child together and i am about to get my degree in CNC programing and operation. Mother in law (in Budapest) says that Hungary is screaming for CNC programers/operators. Wife misses hungary so i am willing to give it a shot. First off, i have checked about half a dozen web sites for technichal employment and the going rate is about $600 US. Here in North Alabama (non union) the going rates is $22 to $27 per hour. Strike one but the cost of living is probably less there….
    To get a drivers license in hungary is a nightmare of pointless tests and a waste of money ( 600 euro [$900.00 or so]) $22 dollars here.
    Wife tells me that the pocket knife i carry every day will get me thrown in jail in Hungary. ( incidentaly i was born and raised in CA so i am not a red-neck-hick)
    And now i hear from Y’all about the self-iportant burracrats making life for others miserable, I think that we will just go for a visit.
    Hungary has a negative birth rate, is in the top ten countries in the whole world for both alcohol consumption per person ans well as suicides (WTO stats).
    And the country wonders why they have a brain-drain.

  157. Goobersmoocher Says:

    adendum: wife is reading over my shoulder and said that the police will stop me and ask me why i am carrying a pocket knife. got my facts wrong there sorry all

  158. baptista Says:

    @goobersmoocher, come to hungary its just a nice and calm place you need not to carry your pocket knive around this is not usa. no one get you arested for carrying around pocket knife, the law in hungary protect no self defence if you got a fight on street try to call the police if your in position to do that if you get someone injured in hungary its 2 to 5 years inprisoment soo no one get use arested if you dont use your pocket knive on people cheers

  159. Luke Says:

    baptista how are you ?
    where i contact with you
    tell me

  160. hpzoe Says:

    Hi,
    I just want to ask if Yuka’s residency card have an expiration date, the people at the airport who handles the travel tax thing dont seem to believe that what I have the permanent residency but just a stamp on my passport or a sticker and it only means temporary due to the expiration being on it, its so annoying they dont even bother to translate it. Me myself im now confuse with what I have, my husband said its permanent since Hungary doesnt issue cards anymore but only stickers to be placed on the passport. Anyone having the same problem?

    Here’s whats on my (sticker)
    tartozkodasi engedely
    az engedely tipusa – tartozkodasi kartya
    megjegyzesek – tartozkodasi kartya magyar allampolgar csaladtagja reszere

    translation – with help from google
    residence permit
    the type of permit – residence card
    Comments – Hungarian national residence card to family members

    best,
    hersch

  161. Ste Says:

    Bureaucracy, yes, Racist, no. Child-friendly, absolutely.

  162. henry Says:

    Since hungary reject bureaucracy what do you think they are they are recist, simply a nazi nation when i aplied for asylum in hungary @bekescba i found it out the social workers are very recist imagine someone ask me why do i come to hungary as an indian hindu

  163. henry Says:

    I wounder how the africans would be regarded in hungary This is just the fact and they need to change in everything the imigration system in hungary is suck not even well traind officers still trying to figure out if the system is still the same as 1999 when we were like slave the in their camps

  164. Andrea Says:

    Wow, it seems there are a lot of foreigners marring Hungarians out there. I am going to marry my baby next year and move to Budapest. I am Chinese by the way, whose paisanos appeared have a major presence in Budapest already years already. I haven’t been in China for a few years now, therefore it’s interesting to hear my folks ventured as far as Hungary in numbers. Well, I just wonder will I have problems getting married and me getting a Hungarian PR due to my nationality. If I am biased against because my nationality, it will be pretty heart-chilling, since I love my baby and I love Hungary because of him. As to the bureaucracy that one has to put up with, I guess that’s the way it is out there isn’t it? What I will do is to check the relevant laws and regulations first, then gather some info from the consulate in Shanghai once I am back home. It’s a horrifying feeling shall we start to figure out how things work in Budapest. My legal background made me someone who always believe in the system, not the people who function in the system. Anyway, I could be wrong, maybe things are as dire as what you guys have put up with, then my baby and I will just have to be patient and resilient to work it out. Bureaucracy is everywhere, having travelled and lived more than a dozen countries in the world, that’s a presence never surprised me and my baby :) ))

  165. Salma Says:

    I came to Hungary and got married on 1st October 2011 and then submitted my residence application on 13th October 2011 with all the required documents. But still i am waiting … I don’t know how long would i have to wait ?? God help this country . Where the citizen of this country is fleeing to Canada as a asylum seekers and economy is one of the worse in europe where the Expenses are more than the earning ….. The business and economy is collapsing and people are falling in the death trap of credit and it seems never ending but still the goverment office is on hibernation ….

  166. Shabbir Says:

    @ Andrea all you will need a certificate of no impediment and your original birth certificate not older than 3 months with an attestation from the Home department and then Apostle sticker on them … Its better if you can sent those papers to your boyfriend first and have them translated from the OFFI office in Hungary and it takes 15 days on a normal fee or for fast translation might be double the cost … and then you can go to the marriage registration office and ask them for a date .. if you want it earlier than a month then you have to give them an application … and after marriage you need to go to BAH office for Immigration and residence permit which roughly will take 3 months to issue you a residence and a address card …… if you want you can write to me at naughtysheikh@gmail.com for any help as i got married the same way ….

  167. baptista Says:

    Your boy friend is wellcome in hungary andrea, since he is chiness they are treated in hungary with fare maner just africans bare the cat cheers

  168. Creaden Says:

    WOW! I got married out here in june 2011 and in one month i got my card to stay and work for ten years. Im from the US. and they didnt give us a hard time at all. its been a smooth time for me to live here so far. I hope everyone else can have a smooth time as well.

  169. haiti Says:

    whoah this weblog is wonderful i really like studying your posts. Stay up the great work! You recognize, a lot of people are searching round for this information, you can help them greatly.

  170. baptista Says:

    @creaden your lucky, people are being treated here acording to their nationality who handle your process maybe he or she is a nice person , i know some africans and asians apart from chiness they suffer for 2 years for what you got between 1 month only

  171. Creaden Says:

    @baptista all the people here have been very nice to me..i feel i never get turned down by the people here. I do belive every thing about the way they turn down these nationality….but i am also black…but maybe its different because im from the U.S.

  172. baptista Says:

    @creadon thats what i mean being an american gives more credibility not the coloure of ur skin cheers

  173. Sandra Says:

    Do we get a stamped Visa on my Passport or a Card as per the New European Rule for Residence Permit ????? ……. However I got married to a Hungarian Citizen in October 2011 after giving all the money that they required for translation and at the local town hall . It was so far a very good experience with everything . And then i applied for my Hungarian Residence Permit paying 10,000 Huf at the BAH office and the guy working at the immigration cannot speak english not a single person could communicate … I wonder how they work at the so called Immigration office without foreign language ??? Its been 2 months and 3 weeks now and my authorized stay is about to get over but i didnt receive anything from the USELESS DEPARTMENT . However on calling them they said that they need additional papers (W.T.F) Were they sitting with my documents and waiting for Snow Balls in Summer ??? This country administration is worse than Afghanistan … I heard that the other day the Kindergarden fee went up from 13000 huf to 39000 huf and no one can say anything ??? wow this is like Barber-ism in the 21st century .. However we sent all the documents because they wanted to know if i am pregnant or not ..(As if it matters) Really sick and screwed administration …… And now i am still waiting … Really the Hungary should change the name of this country to Hungry because the politician are so hungry to extract money from the poor people through imposing taxes over taxes and the average salary is like Euro 300 ….

  174. Rob Says:

    Hello I have owned a flat in Hungary for 4 years.

    Unfortunately I was not told the mortgage was in Swiss Francs (CHF) not Hungarian Forints (HUF).

    I have paid off the completely the mortgage in full via a loan in the UK and savings using the rate of 180 CHF to HUF.

    I need to get a Hungarian Forint loan, but the bank requires a Hungarian Address Card & Identity Card.

    Can anyone tell me the easiest way to get this?

    Thanks! Rob.

  175. baptista Says:

    @
    Rob you need to aply for your resident permit in hungary, When you might have obtain one from the imigration they will send you adress card via post after one week of your resident permit issued cheers

  176. baptista Says:

    @Sandra wellcome to hungary thast the way things work here, scroll up and read maria post her husband is a hungarian too

  177. baptista Says:

    @ sandra
    One needs to be self employed to make life in hungary, if you base on salary in hungary your going to raost alive. imagine how the officies treat you in hungary they are all angry with their lifes fustrated and ready to screw anybody that comes around them cheers

  178. Shabbir Says:

    Hi i think i am the first one in 2012 to get a residence card in Hungary :) … My Residence Card was issued on 2nd Jan 2012 and it is valid Until December 2016 .. Now my question is how do i get my adress card .. Do i have to go to the office and pay like 500 Huf and get a address card ….. Or the department who has issued the residence card will send me the address card .. Because when i went to the Address card office in Szolnok for them the Residence Card was something that they have never heard of seen it earlier .. I know its hungary .. so it takes time for someone to recognise what they have to do … :)

  179. baptista Says:

    @Shabbir
    Be patience the immigration office will send your adress card via post

  180. Jan Lopez Says:

    Hi,
    Just reading this site and the comments and its really good….Anyway, i just have a quick questions hoping a response on it….If a hungarian guy would marry like a Philippine girl in Hungary do we need 6 months to wait for their authorisation for us to get married?or do we need six months for the granting of our request to get married in Hungary?…Hoping for your response

  181. Shabbir Says:

    @ Jan . You don’t have to wait for 6 months . You and your girl friend can go to your local town hall and apply for marriage registration with her Certificate of No Impediment and Birth Certificate translated by OFFI ( But Certificate of No Impediment and Birth Certificate has to be Appostile before translation ) and then you can ask for marriage within a month ….

  182. Shabbir Says:

    @ Baptista , I have a question for you … My question is . I have a hungarian residence permit and my wife who is a hungarian but she has a residence certificate for about 2 years now in germany … and we are planning to go to germany after the birth of our child .. 1) Do i have to register and get a german residence certificate in germany to the townhall ??? 2) And would they cancel my hungarian residence card and issue me a new german residence card 3) Will i be able to work in germany if i have a possiblity of getting a job in Germany …

  183. baptista Says:

    @shabbir
    Yes if your hungarian wife is working in germany your in position to have german resident permit, noone will cancel your hungarian resident i know someone who had 4 resident permit in 4 diffrent european countrys cheers

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